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Forum Muslim Children 
Topic Muslim Ghettoisation 
Author Iftikhar Ahmad 
Date Created 13/05/2008 23:09:34 
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Muslim Ghettoisation
We live in a shrunken world and millions of people are on the move; one of our biggest challenges is how we learn to live in proximity to difference – different skin colours, different beliefs and different way of life. According to a study by COMPAS, Muslims born and educated were given the impression of outsiders. The perception among Muslims is that they are unwelcome in Britain is undermining efforts to help them integrate into wider society. Most of them say that they have experienced race discrimination and religious prejudice. Muslims and Islam is promoted a fundamentalist and separatist by the western elite, which have negative impact on community and social cohesion. The number of racist incidents occurring in London Borough of Redbridge’s schools have reached their highest levels since record begin.

A City or a locality, where Muslims are in majority is a ghetto. There is a tendency for people of similar backgrounds to live together in neighourhoods. The term”ghettoisation” is inappropriate. The original ghettos in Europe during the middle ages were set up by law to confine the Jewish population to one area of a city. According to a research by an Australian academic that Muslim communities in Britain are being increasingly ghettoized in a trend that set back hopes of assimilation by years. Britain has now eight cities in the top 100 most ghettoized cities. The people from the Pakistani community in Bradford and Oldham and Leicester had trebled during the decade. A report by an academic Dr Alan Carling, that Bradford risks becoming a front line in the global clash between the West and Islam. But Islam and Muslims do not clash with the concepts of pluralism, secularism and globalisation. The native flight from Bradford’s inner-city wards showed clear evidence of an increase in segregation in the city since 1991. Native parents are avoiding sending their children in state schools where Muslims and other minorities are in majority. The dominance of Pakistani Muslims in the city has meant that Bradford has become bi-cultural.

Immigrants are the creators of Britain new wealth, otherwise, inner cities deprived areas could not get new lease of life. The native Brits regard such areas as ghettoes. Integration is not religious and cultural, it is economic and Muslims are well integrated into British society and at the same time they are proud of their Islamic, linguistic and cultural identities, inspite of discrimination they have been facing in all walks of life. According to UN, 80% of British Muslims feel discriminated. They are less burden on social services. Immigrants made up 8.7% of the population, but accounted for10.2% of all collected income tax

It is often quoted by the Western media that Muslim schools ghettoizse the children, and even lead to their radicalisation if they are not integrated. There is no evidence that faith schools lead to a “ghettoized education system. In British schools, pupils are encouraged to focus too much on their similarities rather than their differences. The integrationist approach merely results in Muslims feeling that their faith, language and culture is not respected.
Iftikhar Ahmad

Topic Re: Muslim Ghettoisation 
Author Andy 
Date Created 15/05/2008 23:19:02 
Message The reason cities such as Bradford have a large majority of Muslims, is because they choose to live there. Britans are not 'ghettoizing' anyone, Muslims choose to live within Muslim communities, I have seen parts of the UK that are majority Muslim, and in these areas the shops all have Muslim names, there are mosques on most of the street corners, its like having a Muslim country within the UK. This has been made by the Muslims themselves not the Britain. Muslims get get the same freedom Christians, atheists etc get in Britian, If I was to move to a Muslim country, would I be able to build a church... No! 
Topic Re: Muslim Ghettoisation 
Author N Bokhari 
Date Created 17/05/2008 17:30:35 
Message Dear Andy,

Only 35% of the Muslims have some kind of job and almost same number is self emplyed. Most of this self employement is in these around the corner shops with Pakistani names on it. Out of the rest, 19% are on pension or other benefits.

What would happen if they did not have these very small businesses?

Pakistanis have highest number of household. Where, one white lives in one room, there 2 Pakistanis are living in a room on an average.

The existance of most of the South Asian shops are due to Halal foods. Good news for you is that now Tesco will be selling Halal foods. This will, not only, put those shop keepers out of jobs, but also help demolish those little ghetto Pakistans. 
Topic Re: Muslim Ghettoisation 
Author Nbokhari 
Date Created 17/05/2008 17:52:56 
Message Sorry - I forgot to answer your questions:

Yes - you can build churches in any of the Muslim country. As a matter fact, there are more churches than Christians. 
Topic Re: Muslim Ghettoisation 
Author Reina 
Date Created 18/05/2008 22:37:58 
Message In British schools, pupils are encouraged to focus too much on their similarities rather than their differences. The integrationist approach merely results in Muslims feeling that their faith, language and culture is not respected.
Iftikhar Ahmad

When was the last time you went into a British school moron?
To quote yourself
"All native teachers are racist"

You are a racist, narrow-minded, dangerous little man. Actually, that's not true - you're not dangerous because no Muslims will listen to the tripe you spout.  
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