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Forum Muslim Children 
Topic Anti-extremism Vs State Funded Muslim Schools 
Author Iftikhar Ahmad 
Date Created 02/07/2011 22:32:40 
Message Anti-extremism Projects Vs State Funded Muslim Schools

Millions of pounds have been wasted on anti-extremism projects that did not produce any security benefits. But we can afford to throw money at bankers. I think we should axe funding to our variety of (sometimes illegal) wars in other countries. Fewer bombs and perhaps they'd been more money for the NHS and the likes. Why are these specific groups allowed to suckle at the public tit? And what's the message the government is sending? "If we give you money, will you promise not to blow us up?" This is not counter-terrorism work. This is appeasement. Let's call a spade a spade. I feel that this Tory government is edging closer and closer to a police state in it approach to dealing with terrorism - and especially Muslim terrorists. In Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, people were encouraged to spy on each other: would this government have us act in the same way? Will we have show trials where one neighbour denounces another as being a member of a proscribed organisation? Probably too extreme, but who knows? The key challenge is to ensure that healthcare workers can identify the signs that someone is vulnerable to radicalisation, interpret those signs correctly and access the relevant support," the document is expected to say. And what are these signs supposed to be? "Well he's grown a beard which was the first red flag you see. Oh and I heard a ticking noise whilst he was in the room. Crafty little bugger tried to tell me it was my wall clock" Thersea May and Dame Pauline Neville-Jones are utterly insane. Yes beards are a sure sign of something untoward. What are they hiding?

Our politicians need to pay a visit to the doctor themselves, or maybe the psychiatrists would be more appropriate. And will they be able to provide some sort of medication to combat radicalisation? Will Aspirins and a lie down do the trick? Theresa may suggest that universities are breeding extremism. She herself is not helping the cause and in fact making it worse. When she got into her position, a small bigoted group influenced her to ban an Islamic speaker Dr. Zakir Naik who was branded as a terrorist when in fact he did an entire 2 hour presentation as to why Islam does to promote or advocate terrorism. He explicitly stated that it is un-Islamic and that what the do is wrong even stating that the Quran says' killing of one innocent person is as though the whole of humanity has been killed'. That does not sound like an extremist to me. Hypocritical and unjust, not even an appeal was allowed Britain and its ally has created the world we live in. We have nurtured those who do others harm when it has suited our purposes. We have bombed and killed them at will as we saw fit. We have allied ourselves with the Neo-Cons in the USA in Empire-building in the guise of a War on Terror. The world is as it is, because we have demonised those who don't hold our 'values'. If our Government has demonstrated our values over the past decades, I for one am glad there are people out there who don't share them. Corruption. lying, deceit, war-mongering.....We should be seeking them out and giving them money in the bucketful. God Bless Us!! May said it was important to draw a distinction between speakers who expressed disagreeable views and speakers who were unlawful in terms of inciting violence or terrorism.
Tell that to Andrew Ryan, Emdadur Choudhury, and Harry Taylor to name but three, all of whom have been fined or imprisoned for non-violent acts regarding their beliefs. Ryan burned a Koran, Choudhury burned a poppy, and Taylor left atheist literature in the chapel at John Lennon airport. These acts are covered by free speech, but successive authoritarian British governments have failed to recognise this simple fact. May is talking out of her arse, as usual. She makes me sick to my stomach how dare you think that you can say these things and just carry on regardless. This woman is hell bent on destroying out liberties, just like the rest of this ridiculous establishment. I'm just wondering whether she actually thinks’ before she opens her mouth or whether she just doesn't give a fuck.
So long as anti-Muslim, Jewish, EDL and BNP groups are allowed to address meetings on universities there can be no objection to the Muslims doing the same. All should be treated equally. The police should be invited to witness all these kinds of activities and close them down if they think a breach of the peace is threatened. Regardless of the subject, or any personal feelings we might have about it, we have to work on the principle that freedom of speech is total, or we simply do not possess it. I understand that Voltaire's position on this issue was described as being something along the lines of:"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." I think in this he was completely correct.
I don't know what Tory strategists are planning; however, it appears that they seem to think they are on to an election winner with their anti-terrorist strategies. The moment you see the word 'Islamist' you know that ordinary law-abiding Muslim citizens are going to be lumped together with the few deluded fanatics who advocate violence against their fellow human beings. Muslims are human beings too. They have the same rights as everyone else in our country. Yes, there are extremist elements, but not all Muslims are extremists: only a minority. Unfortunately, the innocent majority often suffer as a result of the actions of the evil minority. Let us not forget people's human rights: Muslims have the same rights as non-Muslims in a democratic country.
British schooling has been producing young Muslims full of anger, frustration and extremism, thanks to state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. British schooling is the home of institutional racism and British teachers are chicken racist. They are not role models for bilingual Muslim children during their developmental periods.

British schooling and the British society is the home of institutional racism. BNP, EDL and all other main political parties are the true photo of the racist British society. Why not NATO and the other entire WATCH DOGS group impose sanction on England, for not doing anything to tackle the racism in their Country. These so-call organisations can interfere with the Middle East Countries, to rape the people of their OIL! But can’t do anything about the racism and exploitation of minority groups in England. When these society oppress some groups, and unleash the monster them, and the people retaliate, then they call them terrorist! Need some serious pro-action instead of reaction.
A HEAD teacher who subjected staff, governors and parents to a torrent of racist and rude abuse has been banned from teaching. Simon Parker, the former head of Coppice Primary School, in Manford Way, Chigwell, called a supply teacher a "black *****" and pulled his eyes sideways in an impression of a Chinese nursery adviser.
Because of racism in British schooling, Muslim children are unable to develop self-confidence and self-esteem, therefore, majority of them leave schools with low grades. Racism is deeply rooted in British society. Every native child is born with a gene or virus of racism, therefore, no law could change the attitudes of racism towards those who are different. It looks to me that British society does not want Muslims in the West since it sees them only as a problem?

Just reflect on what the west has done in other countries. Think of Africa and the sub-continent in particular. Do you guys really have a reason to complain? Or are you the elites that always should have it better than anyone else? To be honest, no group of people has damaged the world, other people's societies more than you in the west. Neville-Jones, who quit the Home Office, told the BBC it was not right for the government to "actively assist and advocate those who are advocating quite different values". P N-J, could I please have a list of British values? There are "plenty of Muslim groups" in Britain who holds anti-democratic values and who’s funding should be withdrawn, according to Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, the government's former security minister. There are also plenty of politicians who hold anti-democratic values. As to the threat to our democratic way of life, when are the public going to have a say in decisions that might be important to them, viz. do we cut benefits to the old, handicapped and sick or do we invest in nuclear weapons proliferation? No chance of seeing that on the ballot paper. You could argue the coalition is anti-democratic since no one voted for them and some of the policies were not in either party's manifesto. Otherwise, we're in the same position as re: Hague this week, who 'praised Libyan rebels' without any hint of who these rebels are, so that people might examine their past actions, religious affiliation, political aims, etc. I work in education and under equal ops and diversity I am duty bound to respect everyone’s different values. This is the corner stone of all educational values. Celebrate the different values. So yesterday we in colleges up and down the country are accused of not doing enough to stop extremism and now today we are told to not assist people with different values. When did we stifle debate? When did we become a dictatorship? The only way forward is through open debate and education .Maybe if we focused on all the things we have in common and respected all the different views we could all move forward in a more cohesive way. Building barriers will only further entrench radical extremism
I know that Britain likes to sell arms and provide training to odious regimes, and that we flout international law when it suits, but I suppose there are, naturally, with my not being an expert like P N-J, values I will have missed.
The Muslims don’t want to integrate or abide by western law. Just because they don´t want to wear nude clothes or at least cloth that can show how big her breast are... so these people failed to integrate. Just because they don't like free sex, then these people failed again. What a dirty Bush mind you have!

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.
Iftikhar Ahmad

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