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Forum Muslim Children 
Topic An Open Letter to the Secretary of State for Educa 
Author Iftikhar 
Date Created 05/09/2005 18:28:18 
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An Open Letter to the Secretary of State for Education
The British Government is planning to make it easier to schools to “opt in” to the state sector. This would allow more minority faith schools to recieve state funding. The Association of Muslim schools received £100,000 from the British government to make the transition smoother for more of the 120 independent Muslim schools. Muslim children in state schools feel isolated and confused about who they are. This can cause dissatisfaction and lead them into criminality, and the lack of a true understanding of Islam can ultimately make them more susceptible to the teachings of fundamentalists like Christians during the middle ages and Jews in recent times in Palestine. Fundamentalism is nothing to do with Islam and Muslim; you are either a Muslim or a non-Muslim.

97% of Muslim pupils are in state schools. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be converted to Muslim community schools, manage and control by Muslim educational Trusts or Charities. State funded Muslim schools make sense. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. None of the British Muslims convicted following the riots in Bradford and Oldham in 2001 or any of those linked to the London bombings had been to Islamic schools. An American Think Tank studied the educational back ground of 300 Jihadists; none of them were educated in Pakistani Madrasas. They were all Western educated by non-Muslim teachers. Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models.

The national school systems of social democratic countries such as Netherlands, Sweden and Denmark are based on the principle that children can choose schools in either the state or independent sector funded by the taxpayers. CRE chairman stepped up his campaign to segregate black school boys to raise their academic achievement. A Cambridge University study found that single-sex classes could make a big difference for boys. They perform better in single-sex classes. The research is promising because male students in the study saw noticeable gains in the grades. The study confirms the Islamic notion that academic achievement is better in single-sex classes.
Iftikhar Ahmad
Topic Re: An Open Letter to the Secretary of State for Educa 
Author MaureenDavies 
Date Created 01/10/2005 01:29:18 
Message Iftikhar: I am not going to say anything about my usual hobby-horse (inter-faith schools), but just comment on what you said re single sex education.
It may well be the case that single sex classes are better for academic purposes (and this has actually been proved for girls). What about the social implications of this?
It has been noted that co-ed classes are better to teach social inter-action between the sexes.
Muslim females have to live in society. If they are constantly isolated from males in their own homes and culture, then how will they learn to react with males when they get into the work-force?
The isolation that Muslim in Britain would have in single sex Muslim classes, would ultimately restrict their employment opportunities. In today's society, it is imperative that both sexes learn early how to respect and interact with each other in an appropriate manner.  
Topic Re: An Open Letter to the Secretary of State for Educa 
Author The Khyberman 
Date Created 01/10/2005 01:49:58 
Message Iftikhar:

I know what your game plan is. You want to separate the Muslim children from children of other faiths, thus creating a divided country - Muslims & Non-Muslims.

All this sweet talk is just a front for your real agenda: Islamisize everything. What you and the people that fund you (Al Qaeda?) seek to do is prevent muslim youth from growing up in a multi-cultural context and learning about other faiths and belief systems because you fear losing control over them.

Most muslims in this country (and indeed all over the world) are among the poorest of the poor, the least educated and live in the dark ages. Forced marriages, polygamy, child marriage, honour killings are common place in this subculture, and by keeping the next generation from mingling with others, you seek to preserve this medevial system.

It's all about control Iftikhar Bhai..

Why do you want to segregate people? Why don't you want to get along with everyone? Why do you want to change this country into a caliphate? Why must anyone listen to you or the people that back you? Why can't you let young muslims decide for themselves about what is right or what is wrong? Why must they be forced to learn something that cannot be backed by fact? Why? And who gives you, of all people, the right to talk about education? Look at your own spelling and grammar. My 10-year old can do better than that.

I challenged you to an open debate, but unfortunately you only make a posting and then hide.

Come out in the open and debate mister. If there is a shred of strength or truth in what you have to say, if you have ANY valid arguments, then you should have no problem debating anything. I dare you.

In fact, I dare any muslim to debate this issue with me. And in case you worry about English not being your strength (I agree with that), I can debate in Urdu, Punjabi, Hindi and Farsi. Bring it on.

I would also be interested in knowing why you have not yet denounced the suicide bombers of 7/7 and 21/7? You act like a mouthpiece for Islam in the UK - then why do you not speak out against them? You have not said a single word and that is going to be your undoing.

I notice you live in the poorest region in London - East London's Forest Gate, where 90% of all muslims of working age are unemployed (Yes, I have demographic statistics to prove it). Most muslim people living in that area are on benefits and the state of the streets near the mosques there are in a squalid state.. do you have no pride?

Now please don't give me all that - unemployment is high due to discrimination. Asian people are more rascist than white people can EVER be. I know - I am Asian too.

What you should do is close this website down and spend the money on teaching some of the kids around the Forest Gate area some skills - English classes, IT, construction, trades, etc., You'll be doing SOME good for once in your life.

There is going to be a boom in investment in this area in the coming years and you know who is going to benefit? The hardworking East Europeans who have a work ethic that is stronger than your fundamentalistic streak... in the meantime, the young muslim boys who refuse to attend important appointments because 'they will miss thier Friday prayers', will still be unemployed, uneducated and screwed up.

I know prayer is important, but haven't you heard - 'Mehnat hi Ibaadat hai' (Work is worship). But what would you know about 'mehnat'? What would you know about building - all you know and believe is destroying. Destroying and dividing.

Please don't come back to me with talk of US (or UK) Foreign Policy or Israel or Iraq or anything outside this discussion. That's NOT the subject here. This is about the grubby, smelly, poor, uneducated, unemployed, uncouth layabouts walking up and down Romford Road - one of the dirtiest roads in London. It's YOUR local area Iftikhar, clean it up, show us what you and your brethren are capable of and then people might take you seriously.

Before I go, one more thing: This is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and NOT the Islamic Republic of Great Britain.

Always remember that.

The Khyberman. 
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