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Topic Truancy Vs De-Schooling 
Author Iftikhar 
Date Created 05/12/2005 14:25:44 
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Truancy Vs De-Schooling
Tony Blair’s crusade to raise education standards was dealt a triple blow with figures showing souring school truancy levels, a student drop-out rate of nearly 25% and a surprise fall in state schools entries to top universities. Truancy jumped by almost 10% last year to its highest level, despite almost £1 billion in government spending since 1997 to tackle the problem. Jacqui Smith, the School Standard Minister, announced a crack down on the “stubborn minority of 888 students at 146 schools who were responsible for a fifth of all truancy. Teachers will be required to identify the most persistent offenders and their parents will be threatened with jail if attendance does not improve. The number of children playing truant has risen by more than a third to 1.4 million since Labour took office. DFES revealed that more than 55000 pupils skipped classes every day in the past school year. Of the 1,381,458 truants, almost two thirds or 793,628 are teenagers. As in previous years, the highest number of truant are in the North East and West, Yorkshire and Humberside followed by London. In the past Muslim parents were accused for taking children back home during term times because state schools do not cater for their cultural and linguistic needs.

Education disadvantage cannot be cured by relying on education within the school. Most learning happens casually, and even most intentional learning is not the result of programmed instruction. Most people who read widely, and with pleasure, merely believe that they learned to do so in school, when challenged, they discard this illusion. But the fact that a great deal of learning even now seems to happen casually and as a by-product of some other activity defined as work or leisure does not mean that planned learning does not benefit from planned instruction and that both do not stand in need of improvement.

The causes of truancy are complex and challenging. The truants find schools boring and have no interest in learning. In my opinion, a purpose built friendly societies may be set up in each and every LEA, with highly qualified teachers, mentors, educational psychologists, social workers and most modern learning material and equipment. It will be an open school for any pupil who wants to attend on daily basis. The pupils are not supposed to learn any thing. The school will provide only learning and teaching environment because schools make some pupils more stupid. Sometimes school drops-out is rich of experiences, wisdom, stories, culture, of magical intelligence. Similarly bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools for balanced education by bilingual Muslim teachers so that their parents would not take them to Pakistan during term times. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority, in my opinion all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools.
Iftikhar Ahmad

 
      
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Topic Re: Truancy Vs De-Schooling 
Author Spammed 
Date Created 05/12/2005 23:02:53 
Message Very interesting Ifty. Probably wrong. But interesting all the same.

A couple of points "a surprise fall in state schools entries to top universities" not a surprise to me as the fact that tuition fees has removed further education from the reach of some families. Also the rise in vocational training courses mean that there are more options for school leavers.

"Similarly bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools for balanced education by bilingual Muslim teachers so that their parents would not take them to Pakistan during term times." Why? Are these families so racist or not educated in the need for education in the society in which they are going to live?

You are preaching apartheid. You have here pinned the removal of Muslim children from education on the parents. The children and the parents are breaking the law and in this society with freedoms come responsibilities. The parents who remove children from the schools here are not living up to their responsibilities.

How widespread is this practice? I don't know.

However I wonder how so many people can afford to fly half way around the world and stay there for an extended period of time. The rpesent education system allows children around 1/3 of the year in holidays. Can't trips back 'home' be accomodated in this structure? A trip to Pakistan or Bangladesh or an Arab state is not cheap. Similarly not many jobs that I have had would allow me to take the time for an extended trip, if self employed I might not have the resources to leave without earning.

If the money is so free to the muslim community then why should the schools be state funded? Couldn't the muslim community put forward a lot of the cash itself if the state provided the premises?

It is intesteing the figures quoted at the start are not linked on religious grounds. Or are they? Please inform.

I agree with you that formal teaching is only part of the education benefit. This is why social skills that come from a school environment. The teaching of team work and other aspects through sport. Extra-curricular activities are all important at gaining extra and value-added skills that are of use.

I wonder whether Muslim schools will give these insights with respect to living within British Society. 
 
 
Topic Re: Truancy Vs De-Schooling 
Author jd 
Date Created 06/12/2005 12:50:27 
Message if a school is to be designated as a muslim school - what would be the policy towards acceptance of non-muslim pupils - would there be any accomodation for these

as i see it - state schools as they stand accomodate for all faiths (no matter what you may think) - i do not believe that a muslim for example will recieve a second rate education from such a school as our scools tend to be largely secular in nature

the introductio n of single faith schools - irregardless of what faith - will, in my opinion, lead to a more divided society than a more integrated one which should be the goal of modern society

your goals, however, may be different 
 
 
Topic Re: Truancy Vs De-Schooling 
Author Maureen Davies 
Date Created 13/12/2005 00:57:13 
Message Iftikhar: The one thing I agree on with you here is about the increase of truancy in schools. As per usual I do not agree that Muslim schools are the answer. Assuming you are right though, in that children attending Muslim schools would not truant, what about the other non-Muslim children? Do you care about them to worry about their truancy? Sould we not be anxious about all children truanting, regardless of their faith?
The other point is that parents have to play a greater role in discipline. If we instil values at home, the type of school a child attends, does not enter into the debate. 
 
 
Topic Re: Truancy Vs De-Schooling 
Author Maureen Davies 
Date Created 13/12/2005 00:57:13 
Message Iftikhar: The one thing I agree on with you here is about the increase of truancy in schools. As per usual I do not agree that Muslim schools are the answer. Assuming you are right though, in that children attending Muslim schools would not truant, what about the other non-Muslim children? Do you care about them to worry about their truancy? Sould we not be anxious about all children truanting, regardless of their faith?
The other point is that parents have to play a greater role in discipline. If we instil values at home, the type of school a child attends, does not enter into the debate. 
 
 
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